We’re part of engineering, so even from our geeky perspective IT is still a THEM. Sure, I do some coding when I have the time but it’s just not under IT auspices. And when our coffee talk turns to IT, as it frequently does, it’s laced with the usual fear and suspicion. IT guys don’t play well with others.
As a fringe IT guy myself I know it’s a mistake to paint all software developers with a brush as broad as “coder culture”, but there are some stereotypes that I’ve seen generally run true.